Published December 2, 2016


18/08/2017

Dear Chinese friends

This personal conclusion applies only to Ninebot dealers in Europe and the United States

 

A message from Mr Wang made me understand that it is not Ninebot China that sets prices in our countries.

 

cordially

 

Mini-J

 

亲爱的中国朋友

这一结果个人只应用于在欧洲和美国Ninebot经销商

 

来自王先生一个消息使我明白,这是并非中国Ninebot这将价格在我们的国家。

 

诚挚地

 

迷你-J

 


02/12/2016

This is my conclusion regarding the Ninebot MINI

I have based myself on all the elements I have since buying my Mini and creating my blog which has 7 000 visitors from 103 countries.

 

I read the testimonials and answered questions from users of Ninebot Mini on EUC FORUM and URBAN360 FORUM

I created many topics to inform, help, advise Mini users.

 

This is my final conclusion regarding the Mini that I share with you today, this is my personal opinion on my feeling of Mini owner.

 

But if you were a friend, I'll tell you not to buy it.

If you were a friend ...

 

Reminders:

MINI PRO = N3M320 - PRICE BETWEEN 550 EUROS AND 999 EUROS

MINI says "XIAOMI" = N3M240 - PRICE BETWEEN 260 EUROS AND 550 EUROS

MINI PRO CHINA says "hybrid" = N3M260 - PRICE FROM 350 EUROS

MINI STREET = N3M320 + HANDLE BARR - PRICE 1200 EUROS GERMANY AUT ...

 

 

If you were a friend who has 600 euros, 700 euros, 800 euros or 900 euros to make you happy, and who would like to buy the same gyropod that I own, today, honestly, I will tell you not to buy it .

 

I will tell you to buy a nice camera, or a drone, or make you a trip with this money, but surely not to buy a Mini.

Even if it's a nice little machine with which one has pleasure, the disadvantages are enormous. And the fees do not just stop at his single purchase.

First inconvenience: the price!

 

... Is not for everyone, the guy who earns 1200 euros of base salary will neither put 550 euros in a "Xiaomi" Mini N3M240 nor take a Mini Pro N3M320 to 799 euros or 899 euros etc. .

 

So what do we see?

 

Modest people love this machine but can not buy it!

 

And consequently there are very few users in the streets!

 

Few user = invisible product = unsalable product!

 

So, you are alone in the streets, and looking into the app, which is connected nearby with an identical craft, there are still few people who owns it.

 

It is not only my testimony, but that of users abroad who find themselves in the same situation. They are isolated.

 

You will be able to enjoy yourself, in the woods, in the city, in the roads, you will receive the sympathy of curious people, you will exchange with them, but when you announce the price: it is crippitoire!

 

In addition, there is a general disgust by those who paid the price, the official price fluctuations is the pompon!

 

USA, Germany, Spain, France, the Mini Pro was first announced at 1199 euros, then 1099 euros, then 999 euros, 899 promo, then 799 euros in September and can even find it at 599 euros flash promo on Amazon.

 

A shocking price change!

 

In six months, the value of the Mini Pro loses 45% of its initial price!

 

Over the last three months it is 30% of the price.

Many buyers are unhappy with this rapidly decreasing price, they feel cheated!

The feedback from users unhappy with this loss of money is numerous and it is testimony at the international level.

 

You would like your phone to 400 euros to be sold 150 euros 3 months after?

My personal opinion: the Mini is not worth more than 350 euros!

 

And I base myself on all the prices of spare parts, Mini Fluctuating prices from their home China to the four corners of the world: it is worth no more than 350 euros!

 

"Yes, but the battery, the firmware, the technology, the brand SEGWAY NINEBOT!"

 

But NO ! The Mini is already a year old, it is old! One year is a year of technological progress, improved batteries. But in a year there will be no follow up on the firmware!

 

It disappoints as it imposes additional charges (tires)!

 

It disappoints because its price varies from one day to the next!

 

It disappoints because its speed is limited!

 

It disappoints because Ninebot does not ensure positive communication with its customers either at a country level or internationally.

 

The Mini is only a disposable product for the rich!

 

There are still several models that already have the approval to be marketed in France and that have not yet been released.

A NINEBOT dealer from my country told me on the phone that the NINEBOT "Xiaomi" Mini N3M240 is not the same brand as the NINEBOT Mini Pro N3M320!

 

It's wrong !

 

This is certified by the FCC but also by the European certificate issued to Ninebot concerning the "Xiaomi" model N3M240.

 

The N3M240 was actually well authorized for sale in France but they preferred to target a category of more affluent buyers!

 

You realize we could have our Mini "Xiaomi" for up to 380 euros sold in France? 275 euros in China!


MONITORING PRICE VARIATIONS ON AMAZON by @maxb

a big Thank You to @maxb for these data very interesting

 

Below price variations on amazon for the Mini pro in

USA, France, Germany, Italy, Spain since last june/july


NOW 18/08/2017

I had a message from Mr Wang, Ninebot N°2, very nice, who told me that it is not Ninebot China that decides prices in Europe

 

我有一个来自王先生的消息,Ninebot N°2,非常好,他告诉我,不是Ninebot中国决定欧洲的价格


Second disadvantage: the quality of the tires and some parts

For 2 tires: allow between 20 euros and 100 euros!

 

The wheels wear too quickly, it is the general observation of all the users in the World.

 

Over the kilometers traveled, your attitude of driving, the style "pivoting on the spot" helping, the tires wear out quickly, and to replace them, it is a little difficult.

 

Either you go through the AFTER SALE SERVICE of your country, which will invoice you anyway, either you do it yourself and between buy import, which is cheaper or buy locally whose price can go up to 50 euros the tire !

You already have 100 euros of tires to change (in the worst case)!

 

Third disadvantage: spare parts and customization

 

The Mini is solid, but it is with the first bowls that the break can be expensive.

 

To protect it, it will be necessary to spend!

 

And to replace the deteriorated parts it will be necessary to buy again!

 

The purchase of the spare parts in import is worth the blow but one is not sheltered from cloned parts.

 

Buying and repairing by the after-sales service of your country will be expensive!

 

And if you find spare parts over-the-counter, the price compared to the original price can be multiplied by 5 or even 10 in some cases I have seen.

 

And for the owners of Mini N3M240 said "XIAOMI", in general the local NINEBOT their refuse the sale of spare parts!

 

I was in touch with the official Ninebot dealer in my country, I thought I could buy them a battery and tires, they refused me to sell these spare parts on the pretext that I am not a customer at home but Also as my model, the "Xiaomi" Mini N3M240 is not the same brand as the Mini Pro N3M320 !

 

It's wrong!

 

This is a very bad trade policy and it is a shame, it would have been advantageous for Ninebot to sell spare parts to buyers who imported their mini, they would have earned money. Currently at the U.S.A we can order spare parts of Mini over-the-counter.

 

All the people I had contact with, including myself, needed to tamper with it, customize it, improve it and all this is an extra cost.

 

This remains a solid product as long as it does not take a "bad shock".

 

At the material level, the Mini Pro steering barr is of poor quality, inconvenient for some, that of the Mini seems to satisfy the greatest number.

 

Plastic parts including lighting are of poor quality, you can break them fast enough at the slightest shock, that was my case.

 

You break a motor-wheel: it's 180 euros minimum to redeem one !

Fourth disadvantage: the performance of the Mini

We swim in full delirium when some announce that the Mini Pro has a range of 35 kilometers!

 

It's wrong !

 

The autonomy of a Mini Pro is 30 kilometers and the Mini simple it is 22 kilometers but it is necessary to remove them 6 km, it is related to accelerations, decelerations, obstacles obstacle, weight, outdoor temperature, Bluetooth connection, Etc ...

All this eats the battery.

 

Speed is also the biggest disappointment of users, do not dreams, you will never go more than 17.5km / h, you can make peaks at 18km / h, nothing else, no cruising speed beyond Of 17.5. Without counting the incessant beeps of the Mini, that you roll in reverse, that you take two bumps in a row, it is heavy, permanently it is swelling, and people look at you.

 

(I tell old women he does this when he passes by pretty girls)

 

And do not hope to buy a second battery, already they are between 220 and 350 euros, and disassembling / reassembling a battery can use the steps of screws.

 

Fifth disadvantage: firmware and application

For the application that uses your GPS and Bluetooth, it can eat quite the battery of your phone!

 

The firmware unfortunately have issues, and nothing will be done by Ninebot to meet the expectations of the users, ie increase the speed, decrease the restrictions therefore the alarms concerning driving ...

 

In addition communication level with the developers of Ninebot, it is unanimous throughout the world: they do not answer!

 

The version of my firmware is V1.1.7. When I switched to version V1.2.8, I was disgusted, I could not do anything with my Mini!

It's like I've lost my money.

 

My call to the Electric Unicycle forum was heard and seen 20,900 times and thanks to two developers, I managed to downgrade to version V1.1.7.

 

On the part of Ninebot International, no communication on this subject, nothing was proposed to remedy the defects of V1.2.8 before version V1.3.1, which is still restrictive in the use of the Mini.

 

For you to understand, upgrading the firmware V1.2.8 (including V1.2.7) was like updating your phone from a 4G to a 3G version.

 

I also stayed in version 3.4.1 of the application.

 

At the firmware level, my Mini works well, despite some small bugs, sometimes it loses the balance, and that worries me because if it came to disconnect in full ride the accident is assured!

 


It was very difficult to warn all users that we had the downgrade method

Especially for Chinese users

 

As you see, I have created a topic on an international forum to help Chinese users with firmware v127

 

It was June 11, 2016

 

警告所有用户我们都有降级方法是非常困难的

特别适合中国用户

 

如您所见,我在国际论坛上创建了一个主题,以帮助中国用户使用固件v127

 

是2016年6月11日

JUNE 13 2016 A MESSAGE FOR OUR CHINESE FRIENDS ABOUT DOWNGRADE METHOD

2016年6月13日关于下游方法的中国朋友的消息

We relied on the referencing of the world web for this message to be referenced in the net

 

 

我们依靠世界网站的引用为在网中引用此消息

MAY 18 2016

 

I was posting a message on my blog to warn our Chinese friends about the downgrade method

 

我在我的博客上发布一条信息,提醒关于降级方法我们的中国朋友

 

Mini-J's "HOME-NEWS"  archive 18/05/2016

Many Mini users have been able to downgrade and regain their normal Mini

 

许多迷你用户已经能够降级并恢复其正常的迷你


Sixth disadvantage: the relationship with NINEBOT in Europa & more..

Testimonials from all over the world, Ninebot service providers are generally odious with their customers, take a long time to answer, if they answer, after there are happy issues but it is not generalized.

 

Finally, what about a brand like NINEBOT?

 

I have a Mini N3M240, which I imported from China, in March 2016 I did not buy the Ninebot Mini Pro N3M320 for two reasons:

Its launch in France was continually postponed and its price is still excessive today.

 

So, knowing nothing, I found that the price of the Mini N3M240 was affordable ...

 

Today, I find it excessive!

 

I was well aware of the risk of not having a warranty or after-sales service.

 

Yet, this Mini that I bought from a Chinese dealer, I still paid money to Ninebot, indirectly!

 

I had to pay 140 euros for postage, I realized that I got scammed:

The Mini were already in stock for a long time in the Netherlands!

 

With all the Mini N3M240s they have sold around the world, do you think NINEBOT was not happy?

 

It's been 10 months since I've traveled with 1460 kilometers of traveled.

 

I was lucky to have bought it before Ninebot blocked the activation of so-called models reserved for China last April.

 

Many buyers have managed to activate it through their contacts in China. But it was problematic, one more worry.

 

There again it is a shame this kind of attitude!

 

Block the Mini, while it brings them money, while the Chinese Mini is normally allowed to be sold abroad with its certificate of conformity:

Ridiculous, they are ridiculous!

 

And all those buyers who have seen their Mini blocked! What a shame !

 

#I am a NINEBOT customer, I am a SEGWAY customer, I am a XIAOMI customer, and I am still treated like shit!

 

And this will be my first and last experience with this brand and its very conservative policy!

 

So if you were a friend, I would say to you: Do not buy Mini!

 


02/12/2016

The Ninebot Conspiracy Theory by jojo33/mini-j

The Ninebot Conspiracy Theory by jojo33/mini-j

 

Here are some theories about Ninebot, and you will tell me what you think about it

 

 

1- The regional blocking of the Mini Xiaomi N3M240 since last April:
The N3M240 called "xiaomi" is normally licensed for sale in the US and Europe.
I deduce that it is the Western dealers who asked the blocking of the "Xiaomi Mini N3M240" to better sell the MINI PRO N3M320

 

 

2- NINEBOT CHINA and Chinese dealers are the same person:
How and why does XIAOMI NINEBOT CHINA allow resellers to continue to export XIAOMI MINI?
The XIAOMI MINI are authorized to be sold in the West, they all have inscriptions in English on the battery and inside and there is a manual in English.
Western dealers did not want to distribute the XIAOMI MINI, only the MINI PRO.
NINEBOT CHINA has a large stock of MINI N3M240, it has opened online shops on ALIEXPRESS and ALIBABA to sell them.
In China XIAOMI is powerful, if it wanted to block the export sale of MINI N3M240, it would have already done so.

 

 

3- the firmware V1.2.8 which limited the speed of the n3m240 to 16kmh was made at the request of the western dealers to justify the price of a more powerful mini

 

 

What do you think about it?